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Fallout 4 Bodytalk and Bodyslide Setup Tutorial (MO2)

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Hey Everyone, just a quick tutorial here on how to set up bodytalk to make it ready for play. I'm afraid not many ppl know how to do that because when compared to SAM for example, bodyslide is needed.

For this tutorial i gonna use Mod Organizer 2 as mod manager. To use it in fallout 4 you need to download mo2 from skyrim special edition page right here: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/6194

Alright so before we start with installation make sure to download bodytalk files and its requirements1329891235_Screenshot(150).thumb.png.a39f8db0cbe53731ef7c665b5bc85b8f.png

 

Download the main bodytalk files in 1. and looksmenu patch in 2. so you can get bodytalk to work with ingame morphs using looksmenu. its something very close to how SAM Morphs for Racemenu works for SSE (The patch is not available anymore of download because it has been integrated to the main mod files so don't panic)

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Also make sure to have F4SE downloaded, since its Looksmenu's and AAF's hard requirement.

With everything downloaded install all files with MO2 as you normally do pressing the icon in (1.) and selecting the compressed files in (2.)image.thumb.png.21c3846db95b17fea635c270659ad127.png

*If you have no idea on how to use mod organizer and feel this tutorial don't make you understand it enough, you can find plenty of tutorials on Youtube about its functions and installation process, just gotta hit the search button.

After installing them ofc you want to make them activated: just tick the boxes in (1.) if there are any plugin files ".esm .esp .esl" they will show up in (2.) window as you activate them

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Also in order to make your mods work you need to add a specific line...
 open the ini editor with your mod organizer and go to fallout4custom.ini and place this line: 

[Archive]
bInvalidateOlderFiles=1
sResourceDataDirsFinal=
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          Once you're done placing the line, Press "Save" and we can proceed.

 

Now bodytalk is installed and ready to go right? NOPE! if you check bodytalk mod files you'll be able to see there are no malebody meshes in the default male body directory "meshes/actors/character/character assets" so if you go as it is you'll see no difference ingame, so you have to build them using bodyslide.

Using MO2 for that we need to run BodySlide through it so do the following

1.Hit the box close to "Run" button

2.Hit the "Edit" dialogue box

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1.This Box gonna show up

2.Hit the dots in "Binary" box line

3.This will show up

4.Browse where your bodyslide executable is located, since we installed bodyslide with MO2 as mod its located in MO2 mods folder so the path is "Your Mod Organizer Folder here\mods\BodySlide and Outfit Studio\Tools\BodySlide\Bodyslide x64.exe" in my case "Mod Organizer 2 (Archive)-6194-2-1-6-1545422839\mods\BodySlide and Outfit Studio\Tools\BodySlide\Bodyslide64.exe"

5.Hit the Open box

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1.Path Detected

2.Type in a tittle you can remember of, like bodyslide

3.Hit add button

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1.Hit the box again

2.Select Bodyslide

3.Hit Run

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After hitting run if its your first time with MO2, it will ask you to open Steam. If your have a non steam version select "Remember Selection" then hit NO

A Box will show up ask which game you want to run bodyslide for ofc you want to select Fallout4

With all done you'll get the bodyslide interface now running through MO2. Before we begin building the body lets make sure bodyslide is targeting fallout 4 right

1.Bodyslide interface will show up

2.Hit Settings Button

3.The path must be "Your disk/Any other folder that leads to fallout 4 installation/Fallout 4/Data" NOTE: it must be targeting data as last folder, if not make it target right with pressing Browse box

4.Then hit OK

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OK now we are ready to build our body so lets understand some of bodyslide functions for that:

1.Here its project files for bodyslide ".osd" they have shape data and sliders data. Here is where you have to choose your naked body and outfits (refits) to match your body

2.This is your preset selection. Presets are saved sliders values data for your body so you don't have to set values manually everytime you build a body. The bodytalk itself include some presets for you but you can use/save your own preset for personal use. Normally sliders goes from 0-100% but you can goo further 200%... or lower -50%... just gotta hit the percentage box and type in the value you wish. You can also save your own preset... after playing with the combination of slider the way you like then hit "Save As...". Keep in mind your character won't look like exactly the way you designed your body in bodyslide, that's because fallout 4, differently from Skyrim, has 2 more vanilla group sliders (Weight Triangle in looksmenu -muscular/large/thin- and hidden sliders acessible only through wordpad editing using preset files generated by looksmenu mod). When those sliders are in combination with BodySlide sliders your character will show you differently so everything here is a matter of balance.

3.To see how you body bends with the sliders press the preview button 

4.This will show up you can rotate, zoom in zoom out etc.

5. To make body morphs work using looksmenu ingame

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For this Tutorial i gonna build my body with my own presets. The preset Sample i gonna use is stored in one of my refits and i gonna use the one from here: 

Its pretty simple you just gotta close bodyslide, install the provided mod using MO2 like any other regular mod, activate it and run bodyslide again

1.As you can see my preset is not located in preset list for Bodytalk nude body project. That's because my preset has additional slider data like imported FatStomach slider from older bodytalk version which makes undetectable for the current project.

2.All you gotta do is save the project file with a different name, just hit the little icon there, it makes you open outfit studio for the current selected project.

With the Outfit Studio interface shown up just go to upper left coner and hit File>Save As...

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1.This will show up

2.Press "To Project" button to save all the project files with the name used in "Display Name" Box, in this case TBOS-BodyTalk-V2 Tutorial, so SliderSet and ShapeData is gonna have this name

3.Press Save

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After That close the BodySlide

This preset was designed to work with my Nude Body cus as i said has additional slider data aside from the ones provided by the Bodytalk. You can still use it with the "original" project we saved above but if you want to use my project file so download it here (Bodytalk and Bodyslide Preset section): 

https://vectorplexus.com/topic/926-nsfwfallout-4-share-your-characters-look/

 

Just install it using MO2 like any other regular mod

Now reopen Bodyslide

 

With the bodyslide reopened you will now be able to see the Bodytalk project file we saved earlier "TBOS-BodyTalk-V2-Tutorial" and my Project file "TBOS-BodyTalk-V2-bait" (The File is now named TBOS-Bodytalk-V2-Ulfberth

For this tutorial i gonna use my project file but if you wish to stick a with original sliders (it doesn't matter the difference is my project file have more content when compared to the original the all the other sliders are exactly the same from original bodytalk project file)

 

1.Now my preset is finally avaible for use "My Bodytalk Preset 2.30 bait" (The preset is now Named Big Bear)

2.Tick the "Build Morphs" box and hit Build and close your Bodyslide

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1.Select the outfit project file

2.Select your Preset

3.Build Morphs box checkes

4.Build it!

image.thumb.png.6b50d0706ed6e5cfa468c807ad10f5f3.pngAlso you want to build the outfit we downloaded earlier to have something to cover our bodies with (you can have vanilla refits for bodytalk here:  https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/35043 )

 

 

 

Every single file generated from MO2 is stored in your overwrite folder. For a matter of organization you want to drag the files from there to their proper directory

1. Double click the overwrite line

2.This box will show up

3.This belongs to Bodytalk drag and drop to TBOS-BodyTalk2

4.This belongs to Bodyslide drag and drop to BodySlide and Outfit Studio

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Make sure you have sex theme installed and load the Bodytalk as last as possible in your left panel like this:
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As you can see the BT is loaded after the theme so the conflicting files will get priority to load for bodytalk and they will overwrite the Sex Theme's. The Lighting icon with a + means the current mod is overwritting a previous mod; the mods being overwritten will be highlighted by a green box, as you can see, the Sex theme is inside of a green box and being overwritten by Bodytalk. The lighting with a minus means it's being overwritten.
 You can have the sex theme here: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/36342
Or an AiO theme pack here: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/112667-aaf-themes-beta-basicanimations-sexanimations-kinkycreaturesexanimations/

 

And that's it, now just run F4SE through mod organizer and enjoy bodytalk!!! if you wish to know how to mess with hidden sliders refer to here:

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1. Using LooksMenu preset to modify "hidden" paremeters. 
        You must know the triangle in-game slider which adjusts Mascular/Thin/Fat-ness.
        In fact, there are five more sliders (Head,   Upper Torso,   Arms,   Lower Torso,   Legs)
        which can be modified only by editors (FO4EDIT or CK).
        By setting them to the maximum value (= 1.0), we can realize the truely enhanced body.
        Fortunately, the five values can be loaded via LookMenu as following
                - Open your favorite preset (***.json) by a text editor.
                - Find an array named "values" with five numbers. It should be around  line 114.
                - Set latter four to 1.   ex. [ ***, 1, 1, 1, 1 ] 
                - Save and load in game

Source:

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/36195?tab=description&BH=0

Also some notes about this guide

*You can go something below 0 like negative numbers like -5/ Decimal numbers like 0.5 (would stand for something like 50%) and Value above 1 (100%) like 10 and so on

*The value for *** stands for a specific area of the head/ The second value stands for Shoulders/ The third value for the Chest area/ The Forth value for the Hips and The Last value for the legs (BEEFY LEGS!!!)

*If you wish to use my preset i recommend using making the following combination of sliders:

-My bodyslide preset itself

-The values for hidden sliders are: [ 0, 0.5, 1, 0.2000000029802322, 0.300000011920929 ]

-The Values for the Weight triangle are these: "Weight" : [ 0, 0.6120703220367432, 0.3879296481609345 ] (they are in very bottom of your preset file)

 

 

Let me know if you have any questions!

 

 

 

Ulfberth's Bodyslide BT Body and Preset.rar

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Very useful and informative tutorial, there are some who will find this very useful to read when first installing these mods. So kudos for putting this out there to assist others. 

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So due to an issue I had Gentlemen I advise not to download Working Visible Weapon https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/37794?tab=description&BH=3 That is if you plan to install BodyTalk2. I had a body deformity and when removing it, it was resolved. It could be different for others but I found out that whilst using it it messes with the skeleton that BT2 has. Again this is just a heads up if anyone out there plans to use BT2 and somehow download the latter mod I mentioned. Cheers gentlemen.

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How do I change a male clothes to Bodytalk version ?  I can't load bodytalk in OutfitStudio, it's only CBBE.

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4 hours ago, asuma55555 said:

How do I change a male clothes to Bodytalk version ?  I can't load bodytalk in OutfitStudio, it's only CBBE.

Are you attempting to make conversions to bodytalk? Theres not such a button to make any clothing fit bodytalk, you need to adapt them yourself using Outfit Studio instead. Its a whole in depth process that you need some extra free time to learn about it.

In other hand, if you downloaded an already converted clothing for bodytalk, you can just install the mod using your mod manager or organizer like any other regular mod, open the bodyslide and choose the outfit you installed in outfit/body dropdown menu then, you can build it as if you was building bodytalk itself, but ofc, with your favorite preset

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18 hours ago, Ulfberth said:

Are you attempting to make conversions to bodytalk? Theres not such a button to make any clothing fit bodytalk, you need to adapt them yourself using Outfit Studio instead. Its a whole in depth process that you need some extra free time to learn about it.

In other hand, if you downloaded an already converted clothing for bodytalk, you can just install the mod using your mod manager or organizer like any other regular mod, open the bodyslide and choose the outfit you installed in outfit/body dropdown menu then, you can build it as if you was building bodytalk itself, but ofc, with your favorite preset

Yes, I am  attempting to make  conversions to bodytalk, but when I used Outfit Studio , I cannot load the body model of bodytalk, there were just CBBE body models.

I want to make some male costumes that's not converted into bodytalk.

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4 hours ago, asuma55555 said:

Yes, I am  attempting to make  conversions to bodytalk, but when I used Outfit Studio , I cannot load the body model of bodytalk, there were just CBBE body models.

I want to make some male costumes that's not converted into bodytalk.

Aaaah... I know what you are trying to do. The method you are trying to use is not compatible to do conversions for bodytalk, thats why you cant see bodytalk in that list. You need to do some things more manually. Here, if you want to make conversions, select TBOS Nevernude in your outfit/body dropdown menu on your Bodyslide interface and press the button showed in 2. image.png

This will automatically open the bodytalk project file to use in outfit studio for conversions. If you want to do skimpy, revealing conversions you can use the nude body instead (tbos bodytalk v2). With the project opened now in OS, you can use the import... From nif to import the clothing your are trying to convert or add project... If its inside of a bodyslide project already.

If you need further help regarding conversion for bodytalk you can contact me with my discord Hydrogeddon #8216 or you can join us in TBOS' BT discord https://discord.gg/VSNxuxN

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By the time i made this tutorial vanilla refits for bodytalk were not available yet for the latest version. Now you can download it here originally made by Luke: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/35043 ?

 

Just build them exactly as we built our body and prostitute outfit in this tutorial

i just forgot to mention about the master file required for the outfit used in this tutorial to work (prostitute outfit) you need it's requirement here: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/28919

 

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I just can't seem to get it to work =/

I followed all the instructions and built the body and the armors, but the body is just vanilla in-game and the armors are invisible. the meshes are all sitting there in my MO folder.. is there any idea what I did wrong?

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2 minutes ago, prisinka said:

I just can't seem to get it to work =/

I followed all the instructions and built the body and the armors, but the body is just vanilla in-game and the armors are invisible. the meshes are all sitting there in my MO folder.. is there any idea what I did wrong?

can you open the meshes you've built in nifskope to check if they are the ones you generated from bodyslide?

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Just now, Ulfberth said:

can you open the meshes you've built in nifskope to check if they are the ones you generated from bodyslide?

Yes, I've checked and the meshes all look properly fitted to the preset I made

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5 minutes ago, prisinka said:

Yes, I've checked and the meshes all look properly fitted to the preset I made

but are just these meshes that are not working or any other mod? also check if they are installed in the right path. for the Bodytalk naked body it must be located in Meshes/Actors/Character/Character Assets/MaleBody.nif
Go to DATA tab in your MO

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in 1 you can see the file and in 2 what is storing mod of that file
 

in my case the storing mod is TBOS Bodytalk, when i go to TBOS Bodytalk mod folder, i can browse to Meshes/Actors/Character/Character Assets/ and find the malebody.nif i generated there

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it seems to be in correct place. i'm using old versions of armor and weapon keywords and armorsmith because I do not have all dlc. could it be the problem?

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2 minutes ago, prisinka said:

it seems to be in correct place. i'm using old versions of armor and weapon keywords and armorsmith because I do not have all dlc. could it be the problem?

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maybe it could be a problem for prostitute outfit itself, but it doesnt explain why you are not getting the proper naked body... also you can't install f4se using MO btw, you need to install it directly in the fallout 4 root folder

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Just now, Ulfberth said:

 

maybe it could be a problem for prostitute outfit itself, but it doesnt explain why you are not getting the proper naked body... also you can't install f4se using MO btw, you need to install it directly in the fallout 4 root folder

such a mystery :(

I only install the contents of f4se data folder with MO. the rest in root folder. same way as with skyrim.

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7 minutes ago, prisinka said:

such a mystery :(

I only install the contents of f4se data folder with MO. the rest in root folder. same way as with skyrim.

try switching to portable mode... have you changed the settings in the fallout4.ini already? its important to make the mods work

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3 hours ago, Ulfberth said:

try switching to portable mode... have you changed the settings in the fallout4.ini already? its important to make the mods work

oh here, open the ini editor with your mod organizer and go to fallout4custom.ini and place this line: 

[Archive]
bInvalidateOlderFiles=1
sResourceDataDirsFinal=
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3 hours ago, Ulfberth said:

oh here, open the ini editor with your mod organizer and go to fallout4custom.ini and place this line: 

[Archive]
bInvalidateOlderFiles=1
sResourceDataDirsFinal=

oh boy, yes this was the issue :$ how embarrassing

I didn't know it was necessary to add a file to mod FO4. Thank you so much for your help and i'm sorry for waste your time with my stupid :$

 

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1 minute ago, prisinka said:

oh boy, yes this was the issue :$ how embarrassing

I didn't know it was necessary to add a file to mod FO4. Thank you so much for your help and i'm sorry for waste your time with my stupid :$

 

Don't say that, i'm sure your problem can help many others that may come across this issue too. You actually contributed to this topic, have fun modding Fallout 4 o/

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On 4/12/2019 at 3:30 AM, Ulfberth said:

Aaaah... I know what you are trying to do. The method you are trying to use is not compatible to do conversions for bodytalk, thats why you cant see bodytalk in that list. You need to do some things more manually. Here, if you want to make conversions, select TBOS Nevernude in your outfit/body dropdown menu on your Bodyslide interface and press the button showed in 2. image.png

This will automatically open the bodytalk project file to use in outfit studio for conversions. If you want to do skimpy, revealing conversions you can use the nude body instead (tbos bodytalk v2). With the project opened now in OS, you can use the import... From nif to import the clothing your are trying to convert or add project... If its inside of a bodyslide project already.

If you need further help regarding conversion for bodytalk you can contact me with my discord Hydrogeddon #8216 or you can join us in TBOS' BT discord https://discord.gg/VSNxuxN

thank you very much, I will try again.

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I made a mistake in the tutorial. Ive said the project files are in .osd. Actually the sliderdata is stored as .osd. The project itself is provided by the .osp located in sliderset folder and of course it uses the shape data (project name here) to store the necessary assets for it to work (nif file and .osd)

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3 hours ago, sentiao said:
Can you make a video tutorial?

Aww... Its a bit difficult to make one, i tried once and i failed like a fool. I can try again i guess

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updated some info and updated my BS project file + preset

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